Davidc Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Headline: Watchdog group says release will end 'conspiracy theories' This is bunk. Looks like the CIA has been busy doctoring up footage again. They had to do something though. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.html?section=cnn_us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodle Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Ya saw this earlier. It takes a long time to create a realistic CGI film. Besides what I have heard of the video you still can't see a plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodle Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 EDIT: Just got done watching the video, what a waste it proves nothing, even the people from the news channel was like all you can see is a sun spot and a blur. It was just some cheap material to throw at the public to get them to shut up for awhile. Just because some people had filed a law suit against them, and they needed something to give them. To me this only proves a conspiracy even more. Why won't they release all the other videos that they have of it? What a waste of a video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidc Posted May 16, 2006 Author Share Posted May 16, 2006 They must be of the belief that our senses are dulled. Let's now see some of the confiscated surveilance footage that got confiscated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodle Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 They must be of the belief that our senses are dulled. Let's now see some of the confiscated surveilance footage that got confiscated. Ya won't even happen. I mean if it was really a plane, why not just show it? What's the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Pav Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 The government is all about lies, smoke and mirrors, and betraying us for "our safety". Another thing is gas. They are just screwing us over to make money. Of course some will say it's a simple case of supply and demand. Bite me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodle Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 The government is all about lies' date=' smoke and mirrors, and betraying us for "our safety". Another thing is gas. They are just screwing us over to make money. Of course some will say it's a simple case of supply and demand. Bite me.[/quote']Viva revolution! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidc Posted May 16, 2006 Author Share Posted May 16, 2006 Might I suggest checking this out again. It's kind of a long devil but pretty interesting none the less. http://www.911revisited.com/video.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodle Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Looks more like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidc Posted May 16, 2006 Author Share Posted May 16, 2006 A 757 missle hit the Pentagon. Awesome stuff admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodle Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Tell me this is a plane :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanz Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Interesting supposed log of events... http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodle Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Interesting video on the World Trade Center controlled demolition. http://nopers.com/video/335/proof_of_wtc_controlled_demolition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanz Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Interesting video on the World Trade Center controlled demolition.http://nopers.com/video/335/proof_of_wtc_controlled_demolition you and davec should get together and watch some of his alex jones dvd's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidc Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 The OKC deal was all a put up job as well. It's all about physics. Truck bombs do not have the energy required to knock out steel reinforced beams at the distances involved. Blast radius. In an explosion, we see the blast as it travels outwards go from millions of pounds per square inch down to 50 to 100 pounds per square inch in a very short distance. General Partin (retired USAF Weapons Engineer) estimated that the column that was furthest from the blast zone experienced 32 psi. Something is not right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler785 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 First off, I heard that the video they released is the best that has been found. They recovered all of the other tapes incase they did contain footage. All of the other "supposed cameras that caught everything" in fact didn't get anything. So the government released what it had. The government is in a loose loose situation cause if it releases footage of tapes that reveal nothing then it will be accused of doctering the footage, and if it releases nothing, like it was doing, it is just the same, more conspiracy theories. Now if they had a tape of a plane hitting the Pentagon, I would hope it would be released ASAP to leave no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler785 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Cruise missile on average are a little over 20 feet long and 2 feet in diam.. Judging the distance of the explosion on the building, a 20 X 2 object would be alot smaller then the object that is in the frames that are released. Could it be a plane?? who knows, but that plane was traveling fast, would be blurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidc Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 No wreckage i. e. wheels, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler785 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 There sure was wreckage http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/13.jpg Even first hand accounts of it. Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?" There are alot more pics here at this site. I tried to link them to here, but the site doesn't allow it. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidc Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 John Lear from abovetopsecret.com forums: "OK. Please know this. I have been a pilot for almost 50 years. No airman has more FAA certificates than I do. I had over 19,000 hours when I retired in 2001, 16,000 in large jets. I have participated in many crash investigations. I have built airplanes, I have flown them, I have instructed in them, I have raced them and I have crashed them. The hypothesis that the wings and tail and fuel from a Boeing 757 disintegrated from the high kinectic energy of impact is pure, unadulterated, unmitigated B.S." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler785 Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 That is absolutly correct, who ever said that the wing/tail/ whatever disintegrated? I showed you pictures of debris. Sure you can't see whole sections of the wing or tail but would you really expect too? Considering it wasn't a crash landing at low speeds. Honestly, why would the government release frames of the crash that could be made out as a "cruise missile". If this country really did self inflict these wounds, releasing them would be counter productive if they were trying to cover up something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidc Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 The pictures of debris that you've cited and shown have been decried as doctored by a good number of authoritative individuals. Therein lies the paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndboarder Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 The pictures of debris that you've cited and shown have been decried as doctored by a good number of authoritative individuals. Therein lies the paradox. There are also a large number of experts who believe or back just about any crazy idea. Look hard enough and you can always find a well respected nut or two that will agree with whatever it is one wants to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler785 Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 The pictures of debris that you've cited and shown have been decried as doctored by a good number of authoritative individuals. Therein lies the paradox. There are also a large number of experts who believe or back just about any crazy idea. Look hard enough and you can always find a well respected nut or two that will agree with whatever it is one wants to prove. Exactly, you could take any picture and say "its been doctored". Kind of reminds me of the "did we really land on the moon" BS. Its these people who start and carry on these therories that devide this country and turn it on itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidc Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 The pictures of debris that you've cited and shown have been decried as doctored by a good number of authoritative individuals. Therein lies the paradox. There are also a large number of experts who believe or back just about any crazy idea. Look hard enough and you can always find a well respected nut or two that will agree with whatever it is one wants to prove. So by your account, nuts exist on either side of the debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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